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flop is a fold. not being results-oriented.

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I like seeing one line answers from people with 3k+ posts. Atleast I know where they got their posts from. Please explain further why this is a fold with TP2K vs someone with 4 agg. I'd like to learn why it is so clear.

IMO, I think we can see alot of combinations of hands that we are currently ahead of that he can play this way. It's a drawy board like hell so his hand range is wide. One thing I don't like upon the drawing board is our position. We have to play the hand OOP and there are alot of scarecards out there. Against some players I like to call and evaluate on the turn. I think this is one of those spots where I like that. Im not 100% sure which is better but his AGG number makes me go hmm but on the other side we are deep and I dont want to play that big of a pot with this hand on this board those times we are behind.

Meh, I fold aswell. I take back about me liking to call and evaluate on turn. Just letting it be up there so you guys can see my thoughtprocess and comment on it if you like!

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Look one liners from guys with 3k+ posts isn't bad. Most of us have played a lot of hands+post a lot. So our advice is normally based on what we see ingame. I agree here that this flop is probably a fold with that many people in against a regular who is that tight.

There's not much more reasoning to it than your behind his range. I know this because I'm not comfortable with the turn bet either, and I know your beaten on the river. I just don't see many weaker hands in his range than our current hand.