[Somekid]

Vinetou, I agree completely. My problem is that when I try to open up my raising range against these players, they float me a lot in position and also slowplay their big hands, so I have no idea what to do when I miss flops. check/folding seems pretty weak a lot of the time. And just checking most of the time OOP pre-flop seems too weak, as it lets them get away with limping things like 53o, etc.

Also, I mostly have this problem with very deep stacks. When stacks are more shallow like <17 BB or so, I'm probably going to be getting AI on the flop the times I do raise (and raising limpers OOP less).

EDIT: Changed 3-bet to raising limpers at the end...no idea why I put 3-bet.