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Old 06-02-2006, 07:39 PM
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Default Too agressive with a set on the flop?

Three hands dealt to me in a span of six hands at the same table. Not sure if "maximizing big flops" is rocket science.

First hand, with the pot already 6.5BB , I did't want to get cute on the flop. Any suggestions on an alternate line?


Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, Button calls, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (13 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
SB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, Button calls, SB calls, UTG+1 folds, MP2 folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, CO folds, Button calls, SB calls.

Turn: (12 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls, SB calls.

River: (15 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls, SB folds.

Final Pot: 17 BB

Results
Hero has 6s 6h (three of a kind, sixes).
Button has Qc, Kc (a pair of kings)
Outcome: Hero wins 17 BB.

Now four hands later comes....

Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (9 handed)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls, ok, a bit early <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (3 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls, SB folds.

Turn: (2.50 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB calls.

River: (6.50 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls.

Final Pot: 8.50 BB

Results
BB has Qc Td (one pair, queens).
Hero has 6c 6s (three of a kind, sixes).
Outcome: Hero wins 8.50 BB.

In this case, with a much smaller pot, I was willing to slowplay the flop. Comments?

Oh, they are releasing the remake of "The Omen" on 6-6-06.

The very next hand (three hands in six) there comes this. I know I "should" raise pre-flop. But JJ OOP seems to get me in trouble.

Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (9 handed)


Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. UTG+1 posts a blind of $1.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 (poster) checks, MP1 calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Button calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero checks.

Flop: (4.50 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, Button checks.

Turn: (2.25 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, Button folds.

River: (5.25 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+1 folds, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 caps</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 13.25 BB


Hero has Js Jh (four of a kind, jacks).
MP1 has Ah 2h (straight, five high).
Outcome: Hero wins 13.25 BB.

Only when I looked at the HH did I notice that if the river had been 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], this would have gone in the Bad Beat section.
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