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i don't really understand what's confusing. if the guy is tight and doesn't bluff, then you're dead. if you wanted to see what he'd do on the turn, you got your answer, right? i'm not sure i understand how your read conflicts with the action.

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He rarely gets out of line. Shoving this turn in this manner is getting out of line. I have never seen him make this sort of bet beofre. He likes value-betting. If he had a monster he is playing firly randomly for a straightforward, vlaube-betting ABC player, no ?