[jcl]

draws out of position are bad not only because you're not getting odds but because of what happened on the river. It's so damn transparent when you check-call, the draw completes and you lead out. You're implied odds are virtually non-existent. You have to rememeber this before you call on the turn, especially with this straight draw because 1) if your straight comes with the flush as it did here, you won't get paid off and 2) this particular straight involves the A coming out which trumps the K obviously so you're even less likely to get paid off compared to if u had some low straight draw and the board remained K high