[ronjeremy]

When 3 betting you should at least make it pot when in position and slightly more than pot when out of postion that way your not giving hands like 33 or 68s odds to call. When i get a player calling a 3 bet I usually put them on a range of hands like AK,JJ,or QQ, sometimes players will get tricky with AA and trap but more often than not if ur up agaist AA or KK the $ is going all in.The second hand you made a 3x raise more than the 1st hand but with the utg limpers $ in the pot you again gave the button odds to call.Anytime you get a call on flop and turn then a shove any overpair is probably behind.Lets make an Ex. of hand # two. blinds at 3-6 UTG raises to 24, button calls 24, pot size now 57$ you raise it to $100 remember ur out of position. now utg folds and button has to call $76. at that point we all know any utg raise is usually indicates a strong hand and now ur making a real raise and you putting some real pressure on the button and theres no way the 68s makes the call.