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Old 11-26-2007, 07:55 PM
AlexM AlexM is offline
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Default Re: Why Im no longer an ACist

1. Some of what you say in this is true, but saying it's because they "ignore/don't care" is just false. Some ACists believe that charity will take care of it, some believe that the ends don't justify the means and some believe that by giving stuff to the poor now (at least excessively), you hurt either the poor themselves or the poor in the future. However, none of these come close to "ignore/don't care" and it's simply irresponsible and slanderous to label them that way. You're saying that you think the ends do justify the means, and that's fine, but someone believing that they don't isn't uncaring. Also, a lot of ACists seem to like making things more black and white than they really are, so they make stronger statements about stuff like this than they probably actually feel. Give most ACists a government where taxes pay for this and only this and it's done at a local level instead of a federal one and I doubt you'll see many complaints. You see all the ACists around here supporting Ron Paul, right? Yet whenever Ron Paul is asked about cutting social welfare type programs he says he has no interest in doing that as president and lists stabilizing them financially as one of the reasons for getting out of Iraq. So even believing that the ends don't justify the means, this type of thing is near the very bottom of our list of things to get rid of.

2. I think you're failing to understand just how powerful the protections our government gives to corporations are. The government isn't there helping to make sure that corporations aren't screwing us over, they're helping them do it and working to pull the wool over our eyes when we start to complain. The things you're talking about will certainly happen in AC to some extent or another, but not nearly as badly as what goes on constantly today. Also, youo seem to think that there won't be private third party efforts to do what you want the government to do here. What's the difference in trusting the government to do this and trusting say Consumer Reports? Or some other consumer advocacy organization? Consumer Reports is the biggest of these types of groups currently but not very big because people mostly rely on government to provide standards, but without that government such groups would thrive and would get the job done just as effectively if not more.

3. It's very nearly impossible for us to predict what property will look like in an anarchist society and I wouldn't worry about this a ton. Either this is a deal-breaker that prevents anarchy from being possible or there's some arrangement to be worked out that we don't understand at this time. Regardless, you can support the moral ideals behind anarchism without having an actual solution for this problem.
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