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Old 11-29-2007, 10:36 PM
l3auble l3auble is offline
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Default 200 NL tough river decision against weird player

Some background on this guy. First, he's pretty terrible and overplays the hell out of medium strength hands. He's not completely stupid and I believe he is also capable of shoving with the goods along with his habit of overplaying top pair.

One recent hand stands out where he massively overplayed a hand and runner runnered me.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button ($302.25)
SB ($198)
BB ($220.60)
UTG ($392.10)
Hero ($199)
CO ($199)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $8</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $8, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls $6.

Flop: ($25) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $8</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $52</font>, Hero calls $52, Button folds.

Turn: ($137) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $160.6 (All-In)</font>, Hero calls $139 (All-In).

River: ($415) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $415

He had QTo here and backdoored the straight. He also has shoved on me a few other times in small pots and I've folded. Aside from that he runs at 28/13/1 with a 37.5 WTSD

Now the hand in question:

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($309.20)
MP ($499.55)
Hero ($244)
Button ($390.75)
SB ($37)
BB ($125.05)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. MP posts a blind of $3.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP (poster) checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $10</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP calls $8.

Flop: ($24) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $16</font>, MP calls $16.

Turn: ($56) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $42</font>, MP calls $42.

River: ($140) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP bets $430.55 (All-In)</font>, Hero ???


I have about $170 left on the river so his bet is a slight overbet for me to call. Based on previous history I think he would've shoved earlier in the hand with two pair or a set. This makes his likely holdings either a Flush, Trips, or possibly even air representing a flush. Whatever the case he is a weird player and shoves a lot in smallish pots which is obviously an enormous leak.
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