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Old 11-11-2007, 03:42 PM
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Default Re: JC Tran Controversy at Foxwoods

Matt,

I recently was at a final table of a tournament where a simialr situation occurred, but with a twist. The seat 10 player moved all in, and after some deliberation, seat 1 called the all in. The rest of the table slowly folded their hands, and when it got back to seat 10, he slid both of his cards face down halfway into the muck (the cards were halfway sticking out and could be retrieved). Seat 10 did not see that seat 1 had put the chips out to call the all in, and the dealer did say seat 1 had called, but seat 10 claimed he did not hear this (perhaps the dealer's head was turned toward seat 1?), or see the chips in front of seat 10 (blind situation because the dealer is in the way), or on and on with the different reasons. For this tournament, the hand was declared dead and seat 1 won the pot (seat 1 had A/K, and seat 10 claimed to have jacks, so seat 1 would have won the pot).

So, let me get this scenario straight: When all action is complete and two players are heads up in an all in situation, even if the cards are in the muck but can be retrieved (as they were in the above scenario), they must be retrived and turned face up and the cards run out so the winner can be awarded the pot?

Thanks
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