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Old 05-01-2007, 03:38 AM
Dima2000123 Dima2000123 is offline
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Default Re: The Worst Strategy You\'ve Overheard at a Table

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from a little $5 game I used to play:

After 4-5 people go all in preflop, 1 guy calls with 74o, after everyone flips their hands over (obv. big hands) he say's "I knew you all had big cards, now i'm the favorite b/c there's less big cards for y'all to hit.
Not particularly striking until i found out that he has been teaching high school math for 30 years.

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Actually he may be right on. If the other 4 guys all have the same several high over cards, then they cannibalize each other's equity. The guy with 74o has two live cards, and if either one hits and no one has a high pocket pair, he's probably good. He can easily have greater than 20% equity there.

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bigs PAIRS obv.

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Still, here's a food for thought:

pokenum -h ac qs - kc qh - qc qd - kd ks - 7c 4s
Holdem Hi: 850668 enumerated boards
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Qs Ac 187889 22.09 658344 77.39 4435 0.52 0.222
Kc Qh 66714 7.84 779519 91.64 4435 0.52 0.080
Qc Qd 76 0.01 846157 99.47 4435 0.52 0.001
Ks Kd 434147 51.04 413417 48.60 3104 0.36 0.511
4s 7c 157407 18.50 690157 81.13 3104 0.36 0.186

It seems like the 74o is in big trouble, facing two big pairs and two sets of overcards, and yet even in such a terrible case it's almost right to call 4 all-ins (assuming everyone has equal stacks). If no one has a pocket pair, then you can have almost 50% equity with your 74o monster. At some point overlapping cards in other people's hands actually increase the chance of you winning a showdown; not only is the pie getting bigger with more hands in, but you're also getting a proportionally bigger piece of that bigger pie.
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