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Old 11-27-2007, 06:53 PM
TomCollins TomCollins is offline
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Default Re: Why Im no longer an ACist

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valenzeula: ACists believe don't believe in freedom
ACists: Yes they do, they do not support coersion on someone.
valenzeula: Well, by true freedom, I mean the freedom to not be hungry and live forever.

He is twisting the definition of freedom beyond what is accepted and implied.

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I don't recall him saying "ACists don't believe in freedom". I think he was just disagreeing the AC concept of freedom. I thought his idea of "coercision by non-moral agents" was interesting and makes a good point. I don't doubt that ACists "believe in freedom" FWIW. I still don't see any fallacy.

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Of course he never directly stated it, but I had to simplify things since you didn't understand the fallacy.
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