[limit refugee]

With those two loonies, both playing deep and aggro, I 4 bet this one healthily pre flop. $18-20 and open shove the flop if called.

With the preflop call, I just lead, but if I c/r, i do it bigger...23 leaves enough to open shove on the turn into a caller...I just want it in and fast, your way ahead of their ranges.