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Old 11-30-2007, 06:42 PM
MikeBandy MikeBandy is offline
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Default Re: Low limit stud says it\'s correct to complete the bring in....

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You then state
"Kammen suggests that if someone is showing open Queens and you have pocket Jacks on fourth street, you can call if your hand is live and the other guy’s is dead. I think that this is a terrible game-plan. If someone disagrees with me, I’ll go into mind-numbing detail."

I agree with Kammen here. He states you can go ahead and call if A) They have dead cards and B) You have live draws, with a good kicker. If you see that two queens are dead and you have your jacks as a total live draw as well as a better kicker than a queen, say JJK it is fine draw to a better hand depending on the pot size

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Ceegee, I don't think I understand what you're saying. If the villain has a better hand (two queens vs. your two jacks), and you have only five outs (two jacks and three kings (or three runners for a straight)); you'd need monstrous pot odds (at least 10:1) to call. Right?
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