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Old 10-13-2006, 03:11 AM
Nfinity Nfinity is offline
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Default Re: Correct play for 2 overcards

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Nano table. Loose opponents PF% 30-50

Hero A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] on the button 2 limpers, bet, call, call, fold, fold, hero raises, blinds folds betters call. 9,5 SB
3 callers + hero

Flop 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
First caller bets, call, call, hero raises.


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OK, how do I think? First better must have something, he is the key. The two others are tagging along

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Your first error in your line of thinking is merely focusing on the bettor and completely disregarding the 2 callers in between. Like if they were playing with Uno cards they would just as delighted to peel. While it might often seem the case with these loose passive players, in reality it's not. They each individually have "something", and their individual "somethings" weaken the strength of your nothing.

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Most likely he has big Broadways like hero or small pair. If he has big broadway ours is most likely as good or better than his.

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What does raising accomplish if this is the case?

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If he has a small pair there is a risk that he will connect with the board. I will try to punish him for that by raising.

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You should steer clear of the strategy involving punishing the person with the best hand with raises. I dunno, something just doesn't seem right about it...

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If he comes back at me with a reraise I'm screwed and will fold.

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The strategy where you raise with what is likely not the best hand with the intention of folding to a re-raise should probably be avoided as well. If you see him coming just cross the street. Dont look, no, DON'T LOOK AT HIM!!

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If not I'll take a free card on turn if offered and I don't connect with the board.

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This can be a fairly good play at times, but I'm not even going to go into how often this play flat out doesn't work in this situation, or when it does work it ends up being not worth it.

Oh alright...

Not often.

I'm going on the fair assumption that Pre-Flop was 3 limpers to you and you raised, not that it was Raise 2 COLDCALLS, and you 3-betting. Even then my advice is only slightly off.

In this hand you must understand, you don't have anywhere near the best hand. A donkbet and 2 callers on such a dry board is trouble for you. I know it looked perfect when you thought it up, but what do the callers have? At some point you run out of 2 OC hands for them to be calling with. Even if you do currently hold the best hand, their combined draws against you leave you behind in the equity race.

I call here, but I'm not doing cartwheels. I call here because the pot is huge at this point, but when an Ace falls on the Turn and the action goes bet, raise...I can find a fold when appropriate. Things like that...

If you own SSHE, re-read Pages 221-235, and maybe the Raising for a free card section starting on 167. While your doing that try and come up with another hand.
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