Re: Mormons In Group One
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Since they baptize long dead Jewish people and others,
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What is this supposed to mean? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
[/ QUOTE ]A thing that makes religion irrational is what happens to all the people who died before God's true word was spoken. For awhile there was a book in the bible that had Jesus going to preach in hell for the 3 days before he was resurected. Where we are to assume people like Moses and Plato have been burning all along. I believe that gospel is now apocryphal. But there is mention of the journey to hell in other gospels.
The Mormons have a very large geneology database that contains the names of all those known to have lived and died since records were keept, and pray for them. Every week in a special ceremonies Mormons are giving the list of names to pray for. The prayer is suppose to baptize the dead.
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FWIW, the definition of Baptize is to immerse in water. Mormons are not Christians, so please do not lump them in with us. Thanks.
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"In the practice of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, a living person, acting as proxy, is baptized by immersion on behalf of a deceased person of the same gender. The baptism ritual is as follows: after calling the living proxy by name, the person performing the baptism says, "Having been commissioned of Jesus Christ, I baptize you for and in behalf of [full name of deceased person], who is dead, in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost. Amen." The proxy is then immersed briefly in the water. Baptism for the dead is a distinctive ordinance of the church and is based on the belief that baptism is a required ordinance for entry into the Kingdom of God." So yeah the dead are immersed in water by proxy.
When the Mormons got a hold of the records of the "Final Solution", and started "baptizing" all the murdered european jews, it caused quite a stink in the jewish community.
In this respect, Mormonism is better then most christain sects. How does knowing the all the great persons in history are boiling in hell, because the happen to be born before Jesus was around, fit with any sort of compassionate God? All the "heroes" of the OT, all the pious men had zero shot of a reward in the afterlife. And try as they might to do God's will, it was all for nothing. Because the only way to Heaven is Jesus. Does this make any sense? That Moses, and Abe, and Aristotle are being tortured as we speak?
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