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Old 11-26-2007, 04:08 PM
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Default Re: 33 - debateable on every street

PF seems okay, although since button is an incredible maniac, I'd expect him to raise pretty every time it's his button (and Andy makes a good point about the poster encouraging him), so this is a pretty high-variance play.

I'd just fold the flop. Even if everything goes *perfectly*, (BB and button just call, and you are currently ahead), they are going to likely have 12 outs against you and at least one of them is going to see the river. Add in the fact that you could be way behind already, the "ulta-fishy" CO is often going to cold-call, RIO, etc... and this seems like an easy fold.

On the river, BB pretty much has to be bluffing into 3 players with 67 for you to win this pot - is he that agressive? Will the ulta-fish and the maniac fold an overpair/4/9 for 2 cold? I think I'd rather call than raise, but I'd much rather just fold.

I know it's very wrong, but I sorta want to call the river 3-bet. If this guy loves to attack weakness, he might figure that you can't have a very big hand since you checked the turn and his 3-bet might be a last-ditch desperation bluff with no pair (and beating him with 33 would be some sweet ownage).
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