[Brimstead]

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I usually don't 3-bet this preflop. I prefer to flat call and play for set value. I just don't like building big pots out of position.

But I can see the merits of 3-betting, so maybe I'm wrong.

As played, I think your decision to push was correct.

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You can't put in 1/3 of your stack and play for set value. And shoving eliminates the problem of being out of position.

I shove here too and know that I'm looking at a high variance play if MP2 calls me.

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I'm not talking about putting 1/3 of the stack in. I'm talking about just flat calling the initial $4 raise instead of re-raising to $16.

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Ah, apologies - I misunderstood you. I will sometimes take this line too, especially if I'm up against multiple full stacked players and I'm not sure that the original raiser will fold to a big re-raise from the blinds.

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i dont always 3bet w/ JJ, i play it both ways, but on this occasion i was in the blinds against 2 unknowns so i wanted to play heads up.... then things started getting wild