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Old 11-25-2007, 06:46 PM
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Default Re: NL100 QQ in BB ugly action

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Easy shove

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not an easy shove. but yeah, i think it is still a shove, since i can imagine AQs and JJ in their range, and maybe even AQo and TT.

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Its actually a really easy shove. You're OOP so just calling then getting it in is terrible...and you couldnt be possibly thinking of laying it down..so yes...really easy shove. Your ranges are pretty accurate for a solid reg.

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Why is a stop n go 'terrible' here?

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because the flop could go check check and if its ace or king high by the turn you'll really have no idea where you stand and with only around a pot sized bet left its just an ugly spot to be in. Also you dont get value out of TT JJ and could easily get bluffed off the best hand

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Does this mean that a full stacked reg will call the push w TT and JJ? I guess he would assume he is 50:50 or crushed or bluff catching.

I think a stop and go is problematic not just for the issue you raise but it would narrow our pushing group down to AK, KK, and AA, no? And this is too easy to play against this recently aggressive reg.

If it weren't for this I would like to call and go for a cr on any flop inc A or K and if he checks flop behind then bet non A,K turn.

I don't think we can get value from this villain holding 88-TT, AQ any other way. I doubt he is calling pf push often enough with worse so we have to give him a chance to bet flop with full range but I don't play full stacked so my assessment may be off.
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