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Old 11-29-2007, 01:13 PM
dizzle98 dizzle98 is offline
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Default Re: Horrible Time Pot Rule at Commerce

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For everyone who thinks this is unfair, would you feel it's unfair if UTG had won the pot and paid everyone's time for the next half hour then left? I don't think everyone is going to toss him $12 just because he's leaving. This is just the price you pay for using time pots.

If you want the money back when he leaves instead of giving it to him, then he should have the right to win the pot, leave, and demand everyone pay him $12 for the time he just paid for them. Either he's involved in the time pot...and any time paid "on his behalf" belongs to him, or he's not.

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Your point is valid only in a theoretical sense. Sure if the player had won the pot he would be liable for time, however you have to believe that the player was actually going to to play the hand to believe that he could have been liable for the whole collection. In fact this rule encourages a player who was about to get up and leave, to take a hand merely for the opportunity to fold it and get paid $12. That is the player could not have been liable for the time collection because there was no chance that he would win the pot.

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Do you think he's open-folding AA or KK here though? I don't. So he still has some chance to win the pot. That being said I still think it's scummy to have no intention to play just to grab the $12. But now you're getting into reading people's minds about what their intention for that 1 hand is. And he's UTG so probably not playing many hands here anyways. I think as long as his intent is to play the hand as he normally would then it's ok if he does it. I personally think the time pot is inherently unfair in the first place as tight players will almost never have to pay. (they play fewer pots and the pots they play are likely to be smaller due to their tight image and everyone folding).

But as long as people continue to play time pots the theory behind it is that everyone in the hand has "their money" taken out of the pot. Since it's their money, they are entitled to have it returned to them if they leave. Any player who has the intention of folding all but the nuts on these time pots is theoretically getting a "free $12 from the player who won the pot"
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