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Hi Barry:

Low limit games feature many players who play too many hands and automatically go too far with their hands. These are precisely the type of games which maximize the value of hands like JTs and QTs.

If your book was called something like Surviving Low Limit Hold 'em or even Getting Started in Hold 'em I could perhaps buy your argument. But throwing away hands that are not marginal makes little sense to me.

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A problem with QTs, JTs is that newer players cannot get off these hands when they run into kicker trouble. So they pay off and say, "Nice kicker" to the players with dominating hands.

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So if you're on the button with JTs and five people limp in are you saying be prepared to say "nice kicker?"

Best wishes,
Mason

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Mason,
As one of Barrry's students I think I can answer this very easily. Barry doesnt recommend playing these hands in early position, not on the button. I think the play of hands in EP is one of the areas where his ideas differ from those in SSHE. For what its worth, he is also not fond of open-limping from any position. I suspect this is another point on which you disagree.

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You miss the point. I think Mason is implying that if Barry thinks JTs is OK to play in late position after several limpers, then there is little difference in playing JTs in early position in a loose, passive game that normally has several limpers.

Yes, late position gives you an informational advantage, and a raise behind you is less likely, so it's not exactly the same. But, in some passive games, its darn close.

As for open limping, that's a whole other debate.