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Old 09-26-2007, 06:41 PM
jman220 jman220 is offline
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Default Re: FossilMan requests your feedback

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Hey Greg, congrats on the big win! A lot of people on this site were hoping you would weigh in one way or the other on the Absolute Poker cheating scandal. Personally I think it will be a detriment to the long-term health of the game if this thing just gets swepr under the rug. Someone with your clout could go a long way to make sure that doesn't happen. Are you aware of the issue, and do you have any thoughts or opinions?

thanks,
Matt

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Matt, I would be happy to wade in, but I've yet to hear any hard facts on the subject, just rumors. If I missed something, and there is no hard facts brought to light, let me know.

Thanks, Greg Raymer (FossilMan)

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Hello,
Just to keep you up to date on this, there were many hand histories which were compiled by Adanthar, which produced a style of play/coupled with results that were nearly stastically impossible. Things like an infinite river aggression factor over several hundred hands where the cheating player never once called with a worst hand. Results which, even over short sample sizes, were so many standard deviations away from expectation as to constitute one in a quadrillion to one in a quintillion events. All of the good, high stakes online pros who commented were unanimous that there was cheating going on. But even beyond that, there was obvious chip dumping going on between the cheaters. Things like players, several times, folding for one more bet of $80 on the river into a pot in excess of $8,000. Link to the original thread with statistics here:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...11#Post12097244


Also, congrats on the tournament.
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