totally true my mistake,im new here
,, yup i read 11.66 but thought 11.66 included the action on turn ,my mistake
its a call but like i said earlier a really thin "wishfull" thinking" and if the T clubs comes out i would check fold if any raise takes place.
my reasoning is this: u have 3 out not 4,im pretty sure the T of clubs is totally bogus!
i say barely and wishfull thinking cause with 3 players oput there the chance of a small flush already might be outhere!
3 outs = 14.3-1 on river,14.3 is if u re sure u have the nuts wish you are far away from sure in my opinion
so yes a call for sure at around 20-1 but 15-1 a very thin call
ps: about the 8.5 BB ,i tought(my mistake) he was saying 15 BB is close to 11.66 wish was making me said if 11.66 is close to 15BB then 8.5 BB is close to 11.66 not making this pot a big one [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] sorry lol