Re: You Make The Call
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This was a cash game and there was only $140 in the pot before the river because the flop came up 555 and everyone slow played their hands. On the turn the BB and MP checked and button bet and was smooth called by both. So the big river bet and call by MP and button was worth the extra cash.
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In this case I would strongly consider 86ing both the all-in player and the JJ player. Depends on if there is any history relationship between those players. A reasonable solution if this really was an "honest mistake" would be for the all-in player to pay the TT $400. There isn't any rule requiring him to do so, but that would be an honorable way to settle it.
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AFAIK there is no history between these two and the way the end of the hand played out it was so fast I doubt that the BB really had any idea what he was doing. He said after that he was just having some fun and didn't realize what had happened. I was sitting across from him and it looked to me like he was just being a jerk and bragging but when the guy with JJ insta-called I knew we were going to be in for some trouble.
We don't have any written rules but because we've been playing together for so long we all have a "baseline" of what is proper etiquette and we are all experienced poker players and it was clear to us that BB crossed the line by quite a bit. After separating BB from the other 2 (the button was also furious because he expected to get paid) and getting him into another room for his protection we all sat down and discussed the action and here's what we came up with:
BB was forced to forfeit his hand and all the money he put in. Button and MP split the pot. This wasn't the optimum poker solution but it was really a crappy situation with some big tempers and angry people and a couple of us felt that if BB was awarded any part of the action then he might have ended up in a stretcher.
At first BB was upset but I could see he wasn't really feeling that badly about the decision and he realized the stupidity of his actions. MP is the table fish and button isn't that far behind. A few of us really wanted to appease them, MP especially. Unfortunately, after the game MP announced he was through with our game and he hasn't shown up since but two of the guys who are friends with him say he just needs time.
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