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Old 11-29-2007, 04:30 AM
mikeca mikeca is offline
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Default Re: KQ in BB against Loose Deceiver

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it's horrible going for a c'r on that board. alot of weak hands that will call check.

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Thanks for your time. This rings true but is very difficult for me to understand.

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I think what James means is the K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] on the turn is a scary card. It could complete flush or straight draws, but it is not just scary to you. It is scary to anyone who has a weaker hand or a draw that it did not complete. It is scary to all the hands that you currently beat that are still on draws. The only people it does not scare are the people that just completed their hand and now have a hand that beats you.

Just because the K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] could have completed flush or straight draws doesn't mean that it did. Either one or more person made a straight/flush on the turn or they didn't. When you check, if no one made a straight/flush, there is a good chance it will check around and you will have given a free card to all the draws you currently have beat. If someone does bet, chances are they have a flush or straight, so you are check raising when you are behind and giving a free card when you are ahead.

If you just bet, and you are still ahead because the turn did not complete a straight/flush for anyone, most people with draws will call, and you will have made them pay to draw. If someone does have the straight/flush, they will probably raise the turn, and you will want to call.

Going for the check raise, you probably only get money in the pot when you are behind. Going for the bet, you get money in the pot when you are ahead too.
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