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Old 12-20-2006, 01:29 AM
thesilkworm thesilkworm is offline
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Default Second nuts facing river raise in $0.50/$1 PLO

Reads on opponent - Only hand I've noticed was a pre-flop all-in with A-A-x-x v A-A-x-x which he doubled up on after hitting some nonsense like trip 7s.

Can't find a Full Tilt Omaha HH Converter but I'll do my best to keep it tidy...

Full Tilt Poker Game #1377429270: Table Heber (6 max) - $0.50/$1 - Pot Limit Omaha - 1:34:23 ET - 2006/12/09
<font color="red">Seat 1: thesilkworm ($122.70)</font>
Seat 2: JoAnnV ($108.05)
Seat 4: CodeStah ($248.55)
Seat 6: IUnderscoreSuck ($155.30)
IUnderscoreSuck posts the small blind of $0.50
<font color="red">thesilkworm posts the big blind of $1</font>
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
<font color="red">Dealt to thesilkworm [4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]]</font>
JoAnnV folds
CodeStah calls $1
IUnderscoreSuck calls $0.50
<font color="red">thesilkworm checks</font>
*** FLOP *** [3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]]
IUnderscoreSuck checks
<font color="red">thesilkworm bets $1.50</font>
CodeStah calls $1.50
IUnderscoreSuck calls $1.50
*** TURN *** [3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]] [4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]]
IUnderscoreSuck checks
<font color="red">thesilkworm bets $2</font>
CodeStah calls $2
IUnderscoreSuck folds
*** RIVER *** [3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]] [7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]]
<font color="red">thesilkworm bets $5.75</font>
CodeStah raises to $28.75
thesilkworm has 15 seconds left to act

My play on earlier streets probably isn't great, but I'm not interested in that for now. Let's just discuss my decision here...

Fold - obviously not

So call or raise, and if raise, how much?

Ok, I don't think he's bluffing - people pot raising the river with nothing is so rare in these games.

I also don't think he's stupid enough to do this with the nut flush

That leaves 3-3 (if he's really really loose and I strongly doubted he held this), 8-8 (only one combination of as I have an 8), 5c-6c (one combination of obviously) and 7-7. The trouble with 7-7 is "why has he made it to the river?" He can only have 7-7 if he had some kind of other draw.

Anyway, what's your move? I've heard so many stories about the second nuts in Omaha not being all that great. I'm not really an Omaha player and would like to hear what some experts have to say.
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