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Old 08-20-2007, 11:27 AM
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Default Re: Professional No-Limit Hold \'em Study Group Day 1

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On page 18 in the hand where you hold 8c6c on a Qh7c5d flop you say that you are 5-to-1 against hitting your straight on the next card.

When determining outs on the flop why did you only calculate your chance with only one card to come? Since there are two cards to come wouldn't you use the 4 times rule?

We would then be sitting nearly 3-to-1 against, making it profitable to call getting 3.2-to-1 pot odds before even considering implied odds.

Obviosly it is still a call (or arguably a raise) but I was just wondering if my logic and understanding of the concept is correct.

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The key thing is what the odds are for the next card, which is 5:1 against. If the flop bet is all-in, you would evaluate your chances of hitting with two cards to come.

When you evaluate pot equity on the flop, you use the 4x rule, but with pot odds, you're only concerned about the next card.
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