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here's a what if situation.... What if the person turned their cards up, and was on an absolute steal and got busted. How do we disprove the collusion? If the hand is dead, then the chip dumping happens, and cannot be stopped(unless you arbitrarily decide that the player was on a "legitimate steal attempt" and was not chip dumping).

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If the person turned their hand up then their hand is obviously live. Here's another what if...What if they are on an absolute steal and get called and then muck (like the Tran situation). What would be the negative effects of killing his hand and then have the dealer turn his hand over?