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Old 07-10-2007, 02:17 PM
JJack JJack is offline
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Default Re: Zeldumb?! Zelucky?! Zeldawesome?! (How\'s that for unbiased?)

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For those advocating folding the turn: in many micro games we see villains pumping straight and flush draws with insufficient odds on an assumption of drawing odds combined with semi-bluff fold equity. Or it could be a bluff-raise with overcards. Or it could be a smaller overpair. It is unlikely that the flop hit villain and even though the turn jack is more dangerous the bet will often be the second barrel of a bluff or semi-bluff and not necessarily a pair of jacks. AK is often good here and we do have six outs if it isn't.

I don't like the river c/r because it's too fancy and the ace will often scare a villain into checking behind. I prefer a bet/call line in case villain spiked something lucky. A river bet is for value because villian will have to call with an ace and a worse unpaired kicker.

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Nice explanation sensei !

BWT is the situation change when Q falls instead J falls at turn? still we wanna call turn ?
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