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Old 11-29-2007, 05:43 AM
Micturition Man Micturition Man is offline
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Default Re: Stevesbets and Tommyboy accuse MadCaddy of cheating (TL;DR)

I think it's funny how big a point people are making of the river fold facing one bet.

To someone like stevebets it's inconceivable that you can lay down the 3rd flush for one bet in a big pot, even though given that action no sane player would raise river without it given Caddy's preflop and turn action...

Also people are very mentally lazy when it comes to allegations of collusion. Sure this hand looks strange, because it is strange.

But how does this strangeness suggest collusion?

Either you think they were trying to jam steve out or they were trying to extract value from him.

If it's jamming him out, what hand are they trying to get steve off? (Especially since steve doesn't have a fold button.)

If they're jamming him in, why would they think they have > 66% equity between them when one guy has unimproved AA, A3, and nfd and the other would in theory have little or nothing extra.

Or maybe you think the collusion just comes in in saving one bet on the river but otherwise playing your hand straightforwardly...

It's not collusion give me a break.
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