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if God exists, then freewill can't. if it's so obvious, just tell me.

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i think it's basically that god is all knowing and all powerful, and made the universe and everything in it according to his will. therefore anything that you think is your will is actually his

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so you're saying there is no scenario in which god acts as solely an observer? or an entity that can intervene but leaves people to do as they wish. while god would have the power to affect our decisions, why do you assume that he would do so?

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i don't assume it but i think a lot of people do