[baltostar]

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you definately dont have 6 outs if you shove w/ a gutshot to broadway and get called

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Ok, if he already has broadway you have 3 outs to chop, so that counts as 1.5. If he has a broadway draw to a T you have 3. Same broadway draw as you is unlikely but you chop, so 4 counts as 2. If he has a set you only have 4 good maybe 2/3 of the time = 2.5. If he has 2P you have 6 good maybe 2/3 of the time = 4. If he has PP of the card you need you have 4. If he has top pair, you have maybe 5.5 Put it all in the blender, I don't know, maybe 3.5 outs on avg ? I guess you probably shouldn't shove AKQ AKJ KQJ