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Old 11-13-2007, 03:44 PM
Zetack Zetack is offline
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Default Re: Strange NL betting rule

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Also, I'm not sure why so many people think that bec1972 has some weird closing the action rule (aside from improperly using the 1/2 bet rule in a NL game). What he's saying is that if you have a short stack in the hand and you'd like to whipsaw the people in between you, make sure to bet small enough that when shorty pushes, it reopens the action to you. Intervening players may not have called a 60 dollar opener, but may well call after your 30 dollar opener and the shorty's push to 45. Then you can ree-rah when it gets back to you to either trap more money in the pot or drive players out leaving their dead money behind.

Given his strategic point, its a bit of a stretch to read into his post (although his post is ambiguous about it) that if shorty's all in is less than 45 (in our example) that the action is closed to the intervening players who haven't acted yet.

--Zetack

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This is what he wrote: "...if original bet was $30, if shortstack goes all in for $15 or more on top of calling the $30 original bet than others can reraise NL, if shortstack can only reraise $14.99 or less ($0.99 is just for exactness)than there can be no reraises."

I can't see how that could be interpreted as a strategy post rather than a rules post.

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Yeah, Rotter, I saw that which is why I said the he was somewhat ambiguous on the point, but I read what followed as his main point being that a half sized bet Re-opens the action which gives you some intersting strategic plays when there's a shorty and other in the hand with you.

In light of my reading of that, I thought it was very likely that his use of the word re-raise was simply imprecision in language referring to the orignal bettor, and re-open was what he meant. However, on a third reading, I will concede that those questioning what his rule actually is are on stronger ground than I, based on the actual language he uses. In other words, I'm probably reading more into it, based on what I perceive as the flavor of what he's saying, than the folks who are holding him to the literal meaning of his words, particularly "re-raise". So I withdraw my earlier criticism. My bad.

...Although I still expect that if he responds to clarify he'll say that the less than half sized bet does not close the action to players who have not acted.
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