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Old 07-11-2007, 02:42 PM
zahi1974 zahi1974 is offline
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Default Re: NLHE:TAP \"Concepts\" Discussion Post (somewhat long)

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Most of the time it's not good to minraise. Some players who actually belong to a limit table, constantly minraise. That is bad, because in NL you can change the bet size to your advantage. With a minraise you are giving cheap cards to people with drawing hands.

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I agree, but I still think the OP's question is perfectly reasonable, as Sklansky and Miller advocate min-raising with "big-pot hands" to raise the stakes.

No reason to laugh at him at all (I know you didn't).

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Just show me where they talk favorably about:
Being first to enter the pot pre-flop, and for a min raise (25/50 blinds, and you make it 100). Or, a few limpers have entered the pot, pre-flop, and you min raise then. I'll obviously stand corrected. I just doubt that they would talk favorably about this situation since if you want to "build the pot" as the OP suggests, you would obviously raise it more. And, by min-raising, you're getting no information from your opponents since anyone with half a brain will call a min raise to bust you since you're making it cheap for them.
I laughed at OP, but I'm okay with being wrong about this since I see SO MANY donkies min-raising pre-flop every single day.
Please don't confuse this with min-raising while on the flop, where your opponent has already bet (say the pot) and you make the minimum raise.

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Well, I think he is talking about concept 29 (p. 267 in nlhtap), where sklansky/miller are saying: "It's ok to make small raises (2-3x the big blind) to build the pot or to set up future plays" As an example S/M present someone who hast ATs in early position. And I have to say, that it seems pretty reasonable for me to do this in some spots to bring variaton to your game.

BTW.: In particular preflop-raising is an often discussed topic. Some say you shouldn't vary the amount of it anytime, some say you should vary it, dependent what your position is and some (eg. S/M) say you have to vary it according to your holding and the intentions what you want to archieve with it, but you have to be also deceptive. So it seems to me, that the only thing which is widely accepted without contradiciton is, that the preflop-raise has to be the bigger the more players have entered the pot... [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

greetings!
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