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thanks i get what your saying but at this late stage would there be an argument to flat call to ensure you get more action whereas pushing you are not guaranteed action?

Am i off target completely here, please let me know

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You don't ensure you get more action when called. There are a load of hands, which may call a shove, that may not put in another chip UI and OOP on a load of flops. There are also a reasonable number of hands which always fold to a shove that don't put in another chip, or not enough chips often enough, unless they outflop you. It's pretty rare to see a flop three, perhaps fourway, at this stage and even idiots will be somewhat wary.