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Old 11-30-2007, 09:47 PM
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Default Re: Have a set. Spew?

OP you are supposed to get stacked here - not going broke on this turn is bad play - getting all your chips in on this turn with a set and redraw to a boat is just totally standard. You played this hand well and got unlucky. Definitely not spew.

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The point is that against players with wide opening ranges, you actually don't have very good implied odds because they won't have a hand good enough to stack off every time you flop a set.

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they don't need to stack off - on average we need to net 12xpreflop call = 36bb in this hand - pot is 7bb on teh flop - if you raise his flop CB (say he lead out 5bb and we re-raised to 20bb and he calls - now we've net 20bb and only need 16 more...)

If villains keep folding to your flop raises - then raise their flop bets a lot more often....


Basically we agree that v an unknown flatting is standard - you need a solid read to either 3bet preflop or fold preflop either of which can be a good play under the right circumstances - and I enjoy good discussion as well [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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