Re: Big draw/wierd turn spot
rzk,
"we need him to fold to a bet roughly 20% of the time to make a turn donk better than c/c."
if this were true I'd be donking every draw I ever had. The worry here is that after the flop chk-behind, people typically have weak SD hands like Ax and Kx. The ace is the consummate card for a pfr to both have and/or represent so when it comes he will raise our bet a lot and his k-hi or whatever will win if we don't improve.
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