[Guruman]

--blind response--

I think a read on how a guy plays draws can often be the determining factor here. If he'll donk a draw on the flop often enough that could swing this to a fold.

Flush draws should consider the fact that you'll often raise them with that king out there though, so that means you'll have to be up against a relative non-handreader.

with that said, this is a very logical way to play a draw against a tag that cont bets every time but can fold air if bet into. also, your river bet is fairly predictable - which means that the checkraise is very often for value.

here' the thing - he can't have a naked king, ten, or pp very often there because those hands tend to want to showdown and will check/call the river.

so his hand has to be a whiffed draw for this to be at all correct. which whiffed draws are out there? JQ, J9, and that's about it. even those have showdown value and will probably check/call.

In the end, it looks like this is a fold against everyone but the total weirdos. I hate making this fold though. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]