[tomdemaine]

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There are people here who actually believe police action of any kind = ZOMG! Nazis!

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Indeed,where their reasoning leads to is the conclusion that the Liberty Dollar folks would have been :morally" justified in using force -- including deadly force -- against the agents.

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I would absolutely agree if I saw where anyone from the Liberty Dollar camp was held at gunpoint.

You cannot, contrary to the beliefs of the ACist, shoot someone for the "forceful" act of walking into your office.

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No you can't. But how about stealing your possessions and kidnapping you?

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Again, now we're back to square one, which is people who cannot see the difference in "Search and Seizure" and "Stealing your possessions" who've now also added the fact that they don't know the difference between "legal arrest" and "kidnapping".

You're now officially beyond help.

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Who do the possessions belong to? Who has control over them now? What violence did the liberty people initiate? Are they where they are now against their will or not?