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Old 11-08-2007, 07:32 PM
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Default Re: NL50: 55 l/shove vs SS PF raise

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Spew. 17/5 is horrible for a shortstacker, but the 5 part indicates that you're in terrible shape equity wise, and the 17 indicates that he's calling with a lot of hands that will make you say, "how did he call me with that?" He's also raising an UTG limper from the SB.

PFR doesn't converge that well over 120 hands, but his range is probably somewhere in the AQ+,TT+ range, but cold be as wide as 88+, ATs+, AJ, KQs. The problem with your fives here is you're almost never going to be way ahead.

I've shortstacked over 100K hands (yes, a waste of time), and I often see players make this l/rr with 55/QJs, etc, and everytime I laugh. Granted, I'm not playing 17/5, but my raising range is probably not that much different than his.

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Hero is 17/5 not villain. Villain (SS) is running 23/5/1.1. I think you may have misread that Buddha.

That aside....I don't think I can justify a shove here either. I don't think you are getting enough fold equity to compensate being that behind against the range he calls with.
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