[ahnuld]

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if you're not vbetting tptk on the river with this relatively dry board then aren't you making life way too easy for peachy?

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this and once he doesnt shove turn, can we ever really be behind? I mean he knows you probabably will call a turn shove on the lighter side, (meaning one pair). Although, given that there are so few draws it would be pretty sick of him to flat call a huge hand on the turn since he knows you are likely to vb thin on the river and if your range on the turn is air or AJ, KJ, QQ ish then it makes sense that he might mix it up. I guess it depends on your history and how monkey you guys go at it. If you both have a history of getting it in light and crazy thin calls/bluffs then id expect him to have us beat almost never. If you guys respect each other a lot and play a more normal game towards each other than I dont go for value here.