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Old 08-23-2007, 04:27 PM
jfk jfk is offline
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Default Re: garden city 20/40 makes me real, real nervous

Garden City uses the shufflemaster.

Back a few years ago when I used to frequent the 8/16, it was not uncommon to hear guys using a commonly spoken foreign language to talk about their hands during play. I mean things like, "I folded clubs", "I have a set", etc. At times this was clearly overheard by dealers who would give those players a look but not intervene.

I was not enough of a regular to feel that my opinion with the floor would carry weight, so I selfishly kept my mouth shut and took silent advantage of the free information.

I did not find this situation to be commonplace in other major Bay Area card rooms, but it happened a lot at Garden City.

At least three of the players who used to cheat in this blatant manner are now regulars in the 20/40 and 40/80.

I don't consider swope's scenario to be all that unusual or a good example of an irregularity. The games are by their nature just extraordinarily loose and aggressive. Though very profitable these games are very high variance and lead to a lot of frustration.

There are things about which one should be alert at Garden City, but miracle suckouts and unconscionable plays are unlikely to be getting engineered by the employees.
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