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Old 11-02-2007, 10:36 AM
Yodaman Yodaman is offline
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Default 8/16 Live Thin Value Raises

So I'm a long time lurker, hit 21 recently and have been hitting up local casinos for some time now.

So, even though the "advice" or critique about how aggressive I am shouldn't exactly be taken from the various donks/fish at the table I was still wonder if making thin value raises is worth it.

Hand 1:

My image has been a fairly solid image thus far, maybe a little over aggro.

Villain in the hand is fairly loose passive, saw c/c top pair whole way 2-3 times even in unraised pots top kicker.

Hero is Button with A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

1 limps, Villain limps, 1 MP Raise , Hero 3-bets, SB folds, BB and limpers all call, raiser calls.

4 to flop
K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

Checks to Hero, Hero bets, 2 calls, Villain c/raises, Hero 3-bets, 1 fold, 1 call, villain caps, Hero calls, 1 call.

3 to turn
7 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Villain bets, Hero calls, 1 call

3 to river
7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

1 mucks (missed spade draw probably), Villain bets, Hero...

Reads:
At this point I put him on K9, 22, or 99. He wouldn't 3-bet with 22 or 99 fearing the KK, so is it worth gaining/losing the extra bet here?

Hand 2:

Hero's image is somewhat loose, raising preflop and folding flop/turn for quite a few hands up to now.

Villain is a Thinking LAGfish, but has been hitting cards for quite some time now.

Hero is CO with A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

1 limp, Villain Raises, Hero 3-bet, all fold, villain calls.

2 to flop:
3 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Villain donk bets, Hero raises, villain calls

2 to turn:
5 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

Villain checks, Hero checks planning for cheap showdown

2 to river:
A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

Villain bets, Hero?

Reads
Villain would 3-bet with AT, with 2-pair, and a set on the flop from what I've seen in the past. Villain is capable of 3-betting only with stronger than TP here.
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