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Old 11-14-2007, 10:18 PM
FortunaMaximus FortunaMaximus is offline
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Default Re: Was the Bing Bang a Random event?

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Oh, one other thing. I am sure that you are a lot smarter than me so please show some compassion.

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I treat everybody fairly, regardless of intelligence, so no worries on that score. You may be giving me too much credit, however.

I just think a multiverse model is viable, and I spend a lot of time thinking about infinity and the possibilities and reasoning behind it. That doesn't make me smarter than anybody, just more willing to be wrong and take risks.

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The event, the big bang, is not the issue. We can also assume that the result of the event, the big bang, was the only possible result. The random event of which I am trying to establish is the cause of the big bang. Certainly we do not know the cause, o.k. or even if there was a cause. I am again assuming that there was a cause. I am also assuming that the cause came from within. I guess we could argue that something like the singularity ran into a smaller amount of anti-matter and the result was a tremendous release of enregy resulting in the universe (not anyone's theory just a made up point). But the real point is that within a universe (and I believe that the singularity can be considered a universe) that is not bound by nor even responds to physical laws, randomness is (o.k. may be) possible.

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I believe you're describing an oscillating universe model. This might be viable, but each iteration would have a different result and there would be an infinite series of results. I don't think there's a first cause but there is probability and potentiality.

Whether the big bang is an unique event or a significant event in a succession of events... It's difficult to ascertain without more information, and that is what exactly science lacks in practical terms. They can only theorize as to how and why.

And until this event is replicated successfully perhaps through a computer model or an industrial accident, more likely the latter given man's predilection for such... Opinion would be divided.

I think randomness can occur in finite sets in where the outcome is uncertain, but on large scales, it cannot occur in infinite sets because the properties of infinity seem to determine that everything will happen, just that the when is uncertain.

Perhaps the big bang happened at a random time in a finite set of potential events, and there were other singularities that came to nothing or had no result. Basically null-events.

A deeper look into multiversal models and contrarian outlooks on temporal theory forces one to grasp at things without the background of previous proofs. It's uncharted territory. There is logic behind it though, and dead end or no, I'll continue exploring the possibilities.

I just don't see infinity as a blanket situation, but something with structures within structures. Makes me a little odd and probably disagreeing with some of the basic accepted theories.
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