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Old 11-27-2007, 06:46 PM
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Default Re: What is your line here?

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Check the flop. If MP is straightforward, you should get a better idea where you stand after seeing the action. If it goes check, bet, I might raise given mp's tendencies. If ep bets and mp raises, I'm done. If ep bets and mp calls, I might call and bet most turns.

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Agreed.

Also i think he was trying to say you're weak-tight. I would 3-bet this preflop.

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OK! I am going to give you kids a little lesson. First, set down your Ed Miller book. Ready?

The theoretical correct play when you have the best hand preflop is to raise and reraise as is probably the case here. However, as you gain expertise you become capable of making reads that allow you to divert from the assumed correct play. This is playing counterintuitively if you will.

In this situations I could have threebet preflop, the UTG would have capped since thats what he does in these situations and the MP would have called. Now, do I have any better read on what MP has. NO!

In this situation, I called, EP limp-reraised(as predicted) and MP just called. Now, do I have a better read of what MP has?

There is also deceptive value to just calling here since I could have a pretty big range of hands I called with. If I three bet my range would be much smaller.

I usually do three bet in this situation but decided to take a different approach. My biggest problem is that I am overly aggressive certainly not weak tight.

Now stop believing everything you read and start thinking for your self.

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Why are you so condecending? Why do you think that people only follow what is written in 2+2 Books? None of this is true.

Many people made some good posts in this thread and you get upset about it? Maybe it is better to call instead of 3-bet, but we are all replying to what you typed. None of us were there to determine reads, we can only go off of what you typed. That being said, i still don't see why its a problem if you 3-bet and a laggy player 4-bets. You are putting in 4-bets with the most likely the best hand against EP player. Although you do have to worry about MP, but this is not a good enough reason to forgoe value against EP. Ok so you are out of postion and it makes the harder to play... that's fine.

On the flop you lead and EP will probably not raise with QJs [given read] and MP will be playing Fit or Fold. The 3-bet i feel makes the hand easier to play. MP raises you than its a n easy fold. Also by taking this like you may get MP to fold QQ-88... maybe.

Anyway i think this is an easier way to play the hand and has been working for me at the casino.
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