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Old 11-21-2007, 09:46 AM
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Default Re: top two in huge pre-flop capped pot

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Those of you advocating a pf-raise the first time in, what are your reasons for this? Why do you favor it over also limping?


Hoping to keep it 3-way, and isolate idiot-UTG later, buy button? Hoping to get cold-calls and build a huge pot for good multiway hand?


We at least can't be banking on MP3 to cold-call much (or maybe we actually can because of his stats, not raising much but still playing top hands).

I just thought that getting a limper or two behind and usually the both blinds in would also build a nice pot for our multiway hand.

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limping is ok, but imho raising can be better, depending on the table. with tight ppl behind you, i'd rather have position against 2 poor players. with loose ppl behind you, they'll probably call 2 anyway. so raising can be good either way. QJs is a textbook multiway hand, but it also has value in non-multiway situations vs loose players. if you flop a pair, you're likely going to win. so, raising is not really an isolation play on utg (it does help that he's a loose, poor player) but is basically a value raise vs their holdings.
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