Thread: Free Will
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Old 10-24-2007, 01:24 PM
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What could possibly provide consciousness?

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Evolution.

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Also if you truly believed free will didn't exist why the hell would you try to argue your point? Everyone's views have already been pre determined

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Going with that reasoning, what point would it be to care whether there's a point? All the points have been predetermined, or maybe not, but in either case, you can't change it.

Then again, there's no such thing as "you" or "me"... Reality is one system, wholly interconnected and dependant on the rest of itself. It's not a number of different systems. At least not as far as we know.

In fact, asking why you should do or don't do something, is only relevant when there's intention. So you see, the "point" in doing something is because you have purposes, desires, and each action that you take, whether directly or indirectly, helps you get what you want, or to avoid what you don't want. Or at least you believe it will at the moment you take the action.


Bottomline is, freewill believers are, in every case I've encountered, either one of the following two (though in some cases it can be both):

1) A person who holds a belief in a mystical, non-physical force, unaffected by reality, that guides the actions of living beings (usually just humans). This is a wishful thinking, or rather "feeling-thinking" based concept, and as such, holders of this belief will not listen to reason nor evidence in regards to the abovementioned belief. It's not a surprise that most people who believe in this are also theists.

2) A person who has a different definition the term "free" and/or "will" than the one traditionally used, and especially the one used by people in 1). These people usually do listen to reason and evidence, since the dispute between them and the non-believers is a semantical one.
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