[notfreemoney]

i think the problem is that we are not defining the person that is being trained. Originally, i was responding to the posts that were saying that they never see trainers have clients do anything but machines and other exercises that dont involve the big lifts we advocate on here alot. I was simply saying that most trainer are not having their clients do those lifts becuase most of them are sedentary beginners.

Im all for healthy individuals who have shown that they can handle certain exercises to do them.