[adanthar]

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I'm 75% sure Bakes open folds 88 UTG in this situation

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wow no way

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I really think raising 88 with the intention of folding especially vs. the BB (the most common spot to reshove from since u are last to act) is fairly terrible. If you are raise folding 88 you might as well be raise folding 9Ts since it flops a little better.

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but w/o an "opens light" read, the BB shoving light on a UTG raiser with a 20x stack is suicidal in the first place, so this can go back and forth for a while