[citanul]

Dids, censored,

I don't believe I was being smug, nor do I believe I have to win points, either with the other mods, or with the forums. That's never been my goal.

I've already gotten like half a dozen PMs specifically saying that they are glad that gay and retarded have been lumped in with the other hate speach.

I will let Mat/Gild/Everyone discuss this. I know that I've called things retarded in the past, and still do from time to time, and I also know that a large section of the population finds it offensive.

The fact that retardation is just a line on the IQ scale or whatever doesn't mean that it should be "well it's just like i'm calling him stupid, but i'm calling him extra stupid!" in my opinion. However, I'm totally willing to back off that rule if necessary.

Also there's obviously a difference between calling a person retarded, and meaning "a difficulty in learning/comprehension" than calling a situation/etc retarded. Obviously a situation can't be retarded. Whatever.

Brag: I had sex last night!
Beat: Reading every post in BBV/B4L is hard!
Variance: I'll probably have sex tonight! And a half pound burger!