[guesswest]

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it doesn't matter if the goal isn't to maximise human happiness does it?. Whatever the goal is, it would either justify suffering in its cause or make suffering irrelevent]

chez

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I think that's the same problem - drawing arbitrary distinctions in human action. A world that was 'all good' by this definition would contain no action at all, it'd just be a brain in a vat receiving pleasant electrical impulses.

I 'suffer' a cramped flight to go somewhere I want to go. If I viewed the flight in isolation it'd be bad, if I viewed the trip overall it'd be good. But the flight has no meaning and in fact makes no sense without reference to the destination, even just in terms of language, nevermind experience.